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John Phelan-Cummings

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Message 22073 - Posted: 25 Dec 2008, 13:56:19 UTC

I use the 64 bit EVGA 780i series motherboard with 2 gigs of internal memory. I also use the 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate with the latest SP1 and all the latest updates. The lasted version of NVIDIA 630
does not enable CUDA therefore I do not participate in projects that require it.

The BOINC Version 6.50 (Pre-Release) May Crash Your Computer. My computer used to crash randomly (complete shutdown). To keep it short, after a number of attempts to isolate the causes, rolling BOINC back to version 6.45 so far is the only method that seems to work (preventing crashes.

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Message 22091 - Posted: 26 Dec 2008, 23:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 22073.  

The current stable version of Boinc 6.4.5 for Windows crashes my computer on a daily basis. Running Intel E6300 core duo 64 Bit CPU, 4 GB RAM, Windows Vista Ultimate x64, Nvidia 630 video driver. So, I have the same or similar problem as jphelan.

The previous version of Boinc also crashed this computer on a regular basis, but it seemed to get worse with v.6.4.5. I uninstalled several other programs, but the computer kept crashing. Finally, I noticed a warning issued by Boinc, that Boinc can cause problems with Vista. I uninstalled Boinc, and that stopped the computer crashing. Boinc was definitely the cause of daily computer crashes.
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Message 22092 - Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 4:45:45 UTC - in response to Message 22091.  

So far, I have no trouble with BOINC 6.4.5; no crashes since I rolled back to BOINC 6.4.5 from 6.50.

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Message 22095 - Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 8:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 22073.  

I use the 64 bit EVGA 780i series motherboard with 2 gigs of internal memory. I also use the 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate with the latest SP1 and all the latest updates. The lasted version of NVIDIA 630
does not enable CUDA therefore I do not participate in projects that require it.

The BOINC Version 6.50 (Pre-Release) May Crash Your Computer. My computer used to crash randomly (complete shutdown). To keep it short, after a number of attempts to isolate the causes, rolling BOINC back to version 6.45 so far is the only method that seems to work (preventing crashes.

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Vista 64 ultimate on a Tyan S2892D with the builtin ATI video ran boinc 6.3 thru 6.4.5 fine for months until I tried upgrading the video to an NVS280 PCI in a PCI-X slot. I quickly got BSOD. I also tried an NVS280 PCIe in an X16 slot and the BSOD's continued. I went back to the builtin ATI "server" video.

By complete shutdown, what do you mean? Did it lock up to where you had to reboot? Did you get a BSOD? Did it actualy shut itself down? If it actually shut itself down then IMHO you got a cpu overheating. Set %cpu utilization to 50 and see if that helps cool it off.

I had a cpu fan that would slow down and stop when the case was vertical, but ran ok when the case was on the side with the lid off and me looking at it. It quickly overheated and the system totally shut down. A stripped down version of ubuntu did not have the tools to report or log temps and I was lucky I did not fry one of the MP2600 cpus. The fan on the other cpu ran fine.
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Message 22105 - Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 20:14:18 UTC - in response to Message 22095.  

I mean, "complete shutdown". The compter would simply shut down without going through a, "normal" shutdown or logoff procedure. I would then have to re-power up to be able to use the computer again.

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Message 22108 - Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 22:06:32 UTC - in response to Message 22105.  

That's more of a hardware problem. Power supply unit going bad, CPU overheating, or other control measure (probably) set in your BIOS to safeguard your computer when things go wrong.

It can hardly be contributed to BOINC 6.5.0, which has mostly the same client (*) as 6.4.5 and only a changed BOINC Manager (GUI). Then again, 6.5.0 is a development version (you're warned about that by the (pre-release) word as well as the very red development version warning on the download page!)

(*) the only thing that was added to the code was the use of <no_gpus> in the cc_config.xml file.
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Message 22150 - Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 1:26:10 UTC - in response to Message 22108.  

The ONLY difference is the 6.5O version. Again, as I said, "So far, I have no trouble with BOINC 6.4.5; no crashes since I rolled back to BOINC 6.4.5 from 6.50." , and NO indications of a hardware problem. I don't understand your reminding me of the of 6.5.0 being a development version, and that everyone was warned about that by the (pre-released word, . . . etc.

What does that have to do with it? Should I not have stated a warning about this version and let so many potential computers just crash?

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Message 22159 - Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 15:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 22150.  

This is what it says on the tin:
6.5.0 Development version
(MAY BE UNSTABLE - USE ONLY FOR TESTING)


What I was saying was that when you have power downs, you best look at the hardware first. What I was saying was that the only thing that changed was BOINC Manager. Now how can BOINC Manager, the GUI, power down your PC?

Come up with a reasonable explanation for that, please.
Remember, we can't look at your system, we don't see what you see. If you want to test Alpha and Beta releases of BOINC, which 6.5.0 is, then you should be prepared for the weirdest of things. That's why the warning is on the package, that it may be unstable.

If you want to test these releases, you have to be vocal about what you tested to see if you could fix this problem. There's no use for the developers to give you an Alpha/Beta if all you do is say it doesn't work, post a warning about it on the forums and go back sitting with an older version that does work.

So if you truly want to test, you'd go back and add the debug flags in cc_config.xml; you'd check what Event Viewer is saying what happened around the time of the shut down; you test it on another computer, see if that one does the same thing. If you can't be bothered about all of that, then just do not run any version where the middle number is odd, as that'll be a development version, which may be unstable and crash your whole list of tasks into nothingness.
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