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Message 20482 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 6:28:22 UTC

OK, so I got an answer from ageless(below and, btw, thank you ageless) I checked my installation and BOINC is not running as a service. So, where do I go from here? Would it help if I uninstall BOINC and then reinstall it? Or is the message I'm getting that the graphic jut wo't work with BOINC 6.0 and above?


This is as close as I can get. I don't really have a bug to report. Back when SETI@Home was out there by itself, it came with a graphics screen saver that showed the progress the program was making and what functions it was performing . With this BOINC platform the graphics have just gone away!!!!????? I also believe that when running multiple tasks in the past that the same graphical rendition was there for whatever task happened to be present at that moment. So.............I want to know. Are those graphics compatible with BOINC? And also, where can I get them to download and install.


You don't have to, the graphics module is included in the normal download of the science application. But not all projects have graphics, only a handful of them do. (Seti, Einstein, LHC, Leiden Classical, QMC, Primegrid, to name a few)

The graphics are OpenGL, so you video card needs up-to-date drivers from the manufacturer to be able to show this. The standard Windows drivers don't always include the OpenGL portion of the drivers.

Now then, for BOINC 5.10 and below, the graphics module is built in into the science application. When you have BOINC installed as a service in Windows, you don't have graphics by default. This is an incompatibility bug with Windows. But there is a workaround for that.

For BOINC 6.2 and above, the way the graphics are used is different.
The science application and graphics application are separated. Mind, not all projects use the BOINC 6 compliant applications yet.

See the Graphics and screen saver section in this FAQ for a full explanation on what is what.

And please, ask any further questions in the forums. I am not much around these days for private reasons, so any follow-up questions will take a while to be answered if done through PM.
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Message 20483 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 8:10:43 UTC

We're missing part of the conversation here.

The old style graphics won't, (usually), work with the new version of BOINC.
If you're running BOINC version 5.*, then there's no need to uninstall it to upgrade to version 6.*

And some projects don't have a screen saver.
If you want to know if the ones that you're running do, please post a list of the projects, so that someone can see if they have a screen saver.

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When quoting text from another post, start by using [ quote ], and ending with [ /quote ] BUT WITHOUT THE SPACES INSIDE THE BRACKET PAIRS.
This way the quoted text is marked as such, so that people can tell.

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Message 20488 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 9:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 20484.  

The following projects have version 6 graphics: Leiden Classical

Are you sure about that one, Dag? Looking at the applications available, I figure this project still has BOINC 5 compliant graphics.
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Message 20489 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 9:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 20488.  

The following projects have version 6 graphics: Leiden Classical

Are you sure about that one, Dag? Looking at the applications available, I figure this project still has BOINC 5 compliant graphics.

Likewise LHC.
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Message 20497 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 19:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 20495.  

So, maybe we need a sticky thread that has, as its first post, a list of projects that have a working v.6 graphic and which platform(s) it works on? Maybe lock the thread so it doesn't get filled with noise? Maybe our mods would unlock that thread and update the list from time to time?

Start a list, I would say. I'll sticky it, wait for everyone to fight about which project has pre-BOINC 6 graphics and which has BOINC 6 graphics and then I'll make it a new thread, stickied and locked which shows that result per platform. (somewhere next week when things here have died down a bit)
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Message 20499 - Posted: 25 Sep 2008, 20:19:21 UTC

OK, cpdn.

With one exception, all newly issued model types have V6 graphics.
Some models being slowly crunched will still have the old V5 graphics.

The one exception at the moment are the really long TCMs, which are still in test.
(I think that the need for new spinups and sulphur cycle data are holding up the V6 TCMs.)

V6 graphics are only compatable with V5 BOINC in 'some situations', and the conditions for this aren't known.

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Message 20502 - Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 3:36:25 UTC - in response to Message 20501.  


So far CPDN is on wiki's list. Shall I add Seti, Einstein, QMC and Primegrid too?



Seti is version 6 compatible as is Einstein. I don't think QMC has been converted to the new api. Not sure about all the PG subprojects either.
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