i installed boinc last week and attached to rosetta einstein and seti

had to shut down this weekend and when i fired up my laptop all the attachments are gone!!

is this normal?

I had the same problem, running only SETI. When I restart my machine, BOINC seems to have forgotten that both I and SETI exist. However, reinstalling BOINC and selecting "repair" caused it to pick up where it had left off, but there must be a way of overcoming this. This BOINC thing really does seem fragile, doesn't it? I thought I was subscribing to distributed computing, not distributed debugging!

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This BOINC thing really does seem fragile, doesn't it? I thought I was subscribing to distributed computing, not distributed debugging!

Fragile? Yes, I suppose that would be one way of putting it. Boinc is far more complicated and intricate than the single-project task of administering SetiClassic. When you consider that Boinc is the framework which must accomodate all the variations of at least 8 DC projects - benchmarking, deadlines, scheduling, communication, crediting - and also consider that they have only a handful of programmers, all but 2 of which are volunteers, I'd say that you should be amazed that it works so smoothly. I mean, this isn't Microsoft or Electronic Arts or Adobe, with huge resources of capital and personnel, and yet it could be said that flaws are found, problems addressed, and fixes put in place more rapidly than any of the above.

And, Boinc's multitude of projects offers some alternative means of contribution while the infamous and ever-present Seti server downages afflict you. Of course, you seem quite ready to overlook those little SetiClassic failings, right? How convenient!

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"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward Justice"

personally i never had many problems with seti classic i would always download several work units at a time so if anything did happen i coudl keep pummeling away at it.

All I asked was where all three of them went.

apparently looking in the logs they were still working but for somereason they werent showing up

but the logs only showed up after it was repaired

i figured someone woudl want to know about it.

i am just a guy looking for aliens and cures for disease lol

geez maybe when we find the aliens they can help us all fix our programming problems !!!

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geez maybe when we find the aliens they can help us all fix our programming problems !!!

Or maybe out-source more jobs to them. :-)

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"The arc of history is long, but it bends toward Justice"

personally i never had many problems with seti classic i would always download several work units at a time so if anything did happen i coudl keep pummeling away at it.

All I asked was where all three of them went.

apparently looking in the logs they were still working but for somereason they werent showing up

My bet is that if you had looked in the bottom-right corner of the BOINC Manager window, you would have seen "Disconnected", meaning that the Manager wasn't communicating with the daemon, either because it was not running, or because some other Windows app (ClearCase or something like that seems to be the biggest offender) "grabbed" port 1043 before BOINC could. In general, simply exiting BOINC and relaunching will allow it to connect to localhost. If not, there are various things that can be done to solve this problem. I don't know what version of BOINC you are running, but all of the versions from 5.2.8 through 5.2.14 have improved on either network connectivity, or this particular issue. The developers are trying to solve it - it's something that first appeared (or at least became obvious) when the crush of new users started.

And BOINC allows you to download as many results as you could possibly want, with anywhere from the default 0.1 days cache all the way up to 10 days cache. That was never available with SETI Classic, except through 3rd-party extensions. I would suggest changing cache size slowly however, do NOT just jump directly to 10 days, or you may create many, many problems for yourself.

For the answer to almost any question, I would suggest you first consult the Wiki, then the project boards, then these 'generic BOINC' boards. All of this has been thoroughly covered in the last week or so, mostly of course over at SETI.

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sorry i was busy doing payroll today and went striaght to a message board i didnt even search , my bad.

i dont even see where you can change the setting for the cache or anything

ill check the others from now on, im just used to going straight to the place i know i will get an answer pretty quick, that is why i love forums.

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sorry i was busy doing payroll today and went striaght to a message board i didnt even search , my bad.

i dont even see where you can change the setting for the cache or anything

ill check the others from now on, im just used to going straight to the place i know i will get an answer pretty quick, that is why i love forums.

We certainly try to answer any questions that come along, even those that are answered elsewhere - and believe me, you _didn't_ ask "what happened to my Classic credits", so you're WAY above some... :-) Plus you've attached to my two favorite projects, Einstein and Rosetta, so you get points there as well.

It's just in this case, the "Disconnected" thing is a _major_ issue over at SETI, four or five versions of BOINC have been released in a short period of time, and we're all going nuts. And before Michael could answer you, Alan jumped in with an invalid fix and a slam, and sidetracked everything. Nobody is upset with you, just trying to answer both the immediate question _and_ give advice on possibly quicker ways to find answers in the future.

We know there are a lot of new users coming in, so it's kind of a scramble to get everyone pointed in the right direction. THESE boards are not getting very much attention at the moment, everyone is so busy at SETI.

The cache setting is unfortunately poorly labeled, but it's in the "General Preferences" section of "Your Account", on any of the project websites. (If you didn't know, you can set your preferences at any of them, and they will automatically be copied to the others after a while.) It says "Connect to network about every" - even though it doesn't really affect any connection rate... then in extremely small print it tells you the important part - "(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days)". After you change it and update it on the website, I suggest not just doing an "update" on that project from BOINC Manager, but actually exiting BOINC and relaunching - then the messages tab will show you for sure that you picked up the new prefs from the right place.

Welcome to BOINC!

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ok thank ill go look there when i get some more time.

kind of off the topic i always used to sneak seti in service mode onto all my friends computers...

but they never had one as good as me so it never really helped ;)

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