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Message 8260 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 13:48:41 UTC

I have used both versions and both have to be re-installed often because they lose their permissions or can not connect to a computer (localhost).

This is really frustrating, besides my daily average goes down.

What is happening?
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Message 8261 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 13:56:20 UTC

See if this post helps you along. If not, please elaborate.
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Message 8268 - Posted: 16 Feb 2007, 21:31:49 UTC

Thank you for the pointer. However, this is consistently having trouble. Either the permissions problem or the unable to connect to the localhost. I tried the ip 127.0.0.1 but it still did not connect. It then flashed the permissions error. I re-installed and now it is running.

Mac OS X Intel Core 2 duo, 2 gb ram, 72 gb disk space left.

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Message 8271 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 0:37:42 UTC

Have you read Boincer's reply to my request? It may be a problem with the install script. I have asked Charlie to take a further look at it.
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Message 8272 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 1:09:21 UTC

Have you read Boincer's reply to my request? It may be a problem with the install script. I have asked Charlie to take a further look at it.


If you are referring to

Message 8199 - Posted 13 Feb 2007 23:57:37 UTC - in response to Message ID 7912.
On OS X (10.4.8 Intel), installation 5.8.11 goes fine, but BOINCManager fails to start with the following error...

BOINC ownership or permissions are not set properly; please reinstall BOINC.
(Error code -1010)

Reinstallation has no effect. Have also cleared out all BOINC-related files throughout the system and retried to no avail.

One possibly relevant data point: installing user account is not an administrator, but authenticated as one during installation.

5.4 series previously worked fine on this same machine.

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I am not getting (Error Code -1010).

Netinfo Manager does show boinc_master and boinc_project

So, I will look for a version before the security changes until it is fixed.
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Message 8273 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 1:58:04 UTC - in response to Message 8272.  

No, I was referring to his answer here.
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Message 8274 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 2:18:43 UTC - in response to Message 8273.  

No, I was referring to his answer here.


Ah, Interesting. I tried it. Hopefully, it worked as both scripts ran without error.
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Message 8278 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 12:19:49 UTC - in response to Message 8260.  

I have used both versions and both have to be re-installed often because they lose their permissions or can not connect to a computer (localhost).


What exactly does the error message say when they lose their permissions?
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Message 8283 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 17:46:40 UTC - in response to Message 8278.  

I have used both versions and both have to be re-installed often because they lose their permissions or can not connect to a computer (localhost).


What exactly does the error message say when they lose their permissions?


BOINC ownership or permissions are not set properly; please reinstall BOINC. (Error code -1202)

However, when it does not connect to the computer neither localhost nor 127.0.0.1, I do not get an error code, just a message that it can not connect, to go Advanced > Select Computer where I can either type in localhost or 127.0.0.1 which then loops me through the process over and over. That message comes up faster (less persistant) with 127.0.0.1 than with localhost.
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Message 8285 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 23:23:45 UTC - in response to Message 8283.  

[What exactly does the error message say when they lose their permissions?


BOINC ownership or permissions are not set properly; please reinstall BOINC. (Error code -1202)


-1202 indicates that a project file has been written with the wrong user / owner. Which projects are you running?
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Message 8287 - Posted: 17 Feb 2007, 23:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 8285.  

[What exactly does the error message say when they lose their permissions?


BOINC ownership or permissions are not set properly; please reinstall BOINC. (Error code -1202)


-1202 indicates that a project file has been written with the wrong user / owner. Which projects are you running?


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Message 8291 - Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 1:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 8274.  

Ah, Interesting. I tried it. Hopefully, it worked as both scripts ran without error.


Bob, did this solve your problem?
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Message 8292 - Posted: 18 Feb 2007, 2:01:35 UTC - in response to Message 8291.  

Ah, Interesting. I tried it. Hopefully, it worked as both scripts ran without error.


Bob, did this solve your problem?


Apparently, right after runing the script, BOINC started running w/o a problem. I had not restarted my computer since running the scripts. I normally don't restart it on the weekend. But to check, I just restarted and it started right up and connected to the localhost. I will watch it all next week.

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Message 8312 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 4:27:26 UTC - in response to Message 8292.  

Ah, Interesting. I tried it. Hopefully, it worked as both scripts ran without error.


Bob, did this solve your problem?


Apparently, right after runing the script, BOINC started running w/o a problem. I had not restarted my computer since running the scripts. I normally don't restart it on the weekend. But to check, I just restarted and it started right up and connected to the localhost. I will watch it all next week.


I guess one has to run the script after shutdown. I took my laptop to Kinko's today and BOINC would not run so just re-ran the scripts as before and it works now. Pain.
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Message 8313 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 8:57:54 UTC - in response to Message 8312.  
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I guess one has to run the script after shutdown. I took my laptop to Kinko's today and BOINC would not run so just re-ran the scripts as before and it works now. Pain.


That should not be necessary. I'm assuming you're using the BOINC Installer (with BOINC Manager) as opposed to the bare client; is that correct?

Although this is a workaround rather than a real solution, you might find it easier to run this script. Just look at the script with TextEdit; it has directions for running it. Please let me know if this doesn't work for your problem.

You might also try the just-released version 5.8.15, though I doubt it will make a difference. Meanwhile, I'll keep thinking about what we can do to diagnose the reason for your problem.

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Message 8320 - Posted: 20 Feb 2007, 18:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 8313.  


I guess one has to run the script after shutdown. I took my laptop to Kinko's today and BOINC would not run so just re-ran the scripts as before and it works now. Pain.


That should not be necessary. I'm assuming you're using the BOINC Installer (with BOINC Manager) as opposed to the bare client; is that correct?

Although this is a workaround rather than a real solution, you might find it easier to run this script. Just look at the script with TextEdit; it has directions for running it. Please let me know if this doesn't work for your problem.

You might also try the just-released version 5.8.15, though I doubt it will make a difference. Meanwhile, I'll keep thinking about what we can do to diagnose the reason for your problem.


I am using the BOINC installer (boinc_5.8.11_macOSX_universal). So yes, that is correct. I followed the instructions with sudo and running the script as per previously noted.

I have d/l the Mac_SA_Secure script and will try that. Not scheduled for shutdown until tomorrow AM so will not know until then.

This is a dumb question and I think I know the answer but can I examine the permissions on a specific directory to see what is wrong. For example /volume/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/
currently is owned by boinc_master w/group boinc_master and others read only but I have read and write. If this is normal? I get the error or it will not restart, would checking this and/or making it apply to all enclosed items make any difference? Or is this over my head? (I am short, 5' 6")
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Message 8326 - Posted: 21 Feb 2007, 0:12:15 UTC - in response to Message 8320.  
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This is a dumb question and I think I know the answer but can I examine the permissions on a specific directory to see what is wrong. For example /volume/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/ currently is owned by boinc_master w/group boinc_master and others read only but I have read and write. If this is normal? I get the error or it will not restart, would checking this and/or making it apply to all enclosed items make any difference? Or is this over my head? (I am short, 5' 6")


The installer adds all users with administrative privileges (i.e., all users who are members of group admin) to also be members of groups boinc_master and boinc_project. This permits admin users to easily access BOINC's data. That's why you have read/write access.

Since you understand how to check owners, groups and permissions, it would be great if you could check these the next time you have a problem. Please look at these values for the slots directory, projects directory and all their contents; then compare them to the desired values shown here.

Please let me know which files or directories have the wrong ownership or permissions. Error -1202 usually indicates that some of the contents of either the slots directory or the projects directory have the wrong user or owner.

You can find an explanation of the octal permission codes here; scroll down to the section titled "Modes".

You can also find more information on the security permission settings here if that helps.

Thanks in advance for your assisitance in tracking this down.
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Message 8343 - Posted: 22 Feb 2007, 5:27:00 UTC - in response to Message 8326.  

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The installer adds all users with administrative privileges (i.e., all users who are members of group admin) to also be members of groups boinc_master and boinc_project. This permits admin users to easily access BOINC's data. That's why you have read/write access.

Since you understand how to check owners, groups and permissions, it would be great if you could check these the next time you have a problem. Please look at these values for the slots directory, projects directory and all their contents; then compare them to the desired values shown here.

Please let me know which files or directories have the wrong ownership or permissions. Error -1202 usually indicates that some of the contents of either the slots directory or the projects directory have the wrong user or owner.

You can find an explanation of the octal permission codes here; scroll down to the section titled "Modes".

You can also find more information on the security permission settings here if that helps.

Thanks in advance for your assisitance in tracking this down.[/quote]


Arrgghh, I just messed up and lost all that I typed.

Projects, slots, 0, 1 folders all 664 (I.e., Read/Write, Read/Write, Read using command-i and using monitor ls -al, I believe that I saw the same thing but that was 14 hours ago.
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However, switcher is read only, read only, no access.

I took screen shots of all the items above (if you would need them.)
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Message 8345 - Posted: 22 Feb 2007, 9:33:31 UTC - in response to Message 8343.  
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Projects, slots, 0, 1 folders all 664 (I.e., Read/Write, Read/Write, Read using command-i and using monitor ls -al, I believe that I saw the same thing but that was 14 hours ago.
)
However, switcher is read only, read only, no access.

I took screen shots of all the items above (if you would need them.)

Can you tell me the permissions of the files inside the 0 and 1 directories, and also for the files inside the projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ directory? I also need to know the user and group for each directory and file.

The simplest thing is to type the following in the Terminal application (the quotation marks are important):
cd "/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots/"
ls -alR
cd "/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/"
ls -alR

Then copy the results from the Terminal window into a message and post it here. (The Terminal application is at /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.)

Thanks!
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Message 8379 - Posted: 23 Feb 2007, 3:53:45 UTC - in response to Message 8345.  
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Can you tell me the permissions of the files inside the 0 and 1 directories, and also for the files inside the projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/ directory? I also need to know the user and group for each directory and file.

The simplest thing is to type the following in the Terminal application (the quotation marks are important):
cd "/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots/"
ls -alR
cd "/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects/"
ls -alR

{snip}
Thanks!

Slots 0 and 1
MyMacbook:/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/slots bob$ ls -aiR
949215 . 949216 .DS_Store 1178010 1
949103 .. 949217 0

./0:
949217 .
949215 ..
28198071 boinc_lockfile
28198057 init_data.xml
28198065 result.sah
28198059 seti_logo
28198060 setiathome_5.13_AUTHORS
28198061 setiathome_5.13_COPYING
28198062 setiathome_5.13_COPYRIGHT
28198063 setiathome_5.13_README
28198058 setiathome_5.13_powerpc-apple-darwin
28198147 state.sah
28198067 stderr.txt
28198146 wisdom.sah
28198064 work_unit.sah

./1:
1178010 .
949215 ..
28198133 boinc_lockfile
28198082 init_data.xml
28198090 result.sah
28198084 seti_logo
28198085 setiathome_5.13_AUTHORS
28198086 setiathome_5.13_COPYING
28198087 setiathome_5.13_COPYRIGHT
28198088 setiathome_5.13_README
28198083 setiathome_5.13_powerpc-apple-darwin
28198150 state.sah
28198092 stderr.txt
28198149 wisdom.sah
28198089 work_unit.sah

Projects Folder.
MyMacbook:/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects bob$ ls -aiR949197 . 949198 .DS_Store
949103 .. 949199 setiathome.berkeley.edu

./setiathome.berkeley.edu:
949199 .
949197 ..
949200 .DS_Store
27388283 10mr00aa.28687.22737.748562.3.204
27388311 10mr00aa.28687.22737.748562.3.204_0_0
949203 15no99ab.26323.10722.461070.3.11
28198054 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.156
28198075 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.156_2_0
28198079 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.206
28198102 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.206_3_0
28198080 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.236
28198111 18se03aa.8593.33282.823572.3.243
949204 22mr99aa.29937.9873.92308.3.53
949205 22mr99aa.29937.9873.92308.3.53_3_0
949206 28fe99aa.2726.11841.1028384.3.75
27388348 30my00aa.5949.9249.186078.3.172
27388313 30my00aa.5949.9249.186078.3.28
27388341 30my00aa.5949.9249.186078.3.28_3_0
27388314 30my00aa.5949.9249.186078.3.61
28198041 seti513.jpg
28198044 setiathome_5.13_AUTHORS
28198046 setiathome_5.13_COPYING
28198050 setiathome_5.13_COPYRIGHT
28198052 setiathome_5.13_README
28198040 setiathome_5.13_powerpc-apple-darwin
28197826 slideshow_setiathome_enhanced_00
28197823 slideshow_setiathome_enhanced_01
28197825 slideshow_setiathome_enhanced_02
28197824 stat_icon
MyMacbook:/Library/Application Support/BOINC Data/projects bob$

It started it right back up this AM but just now it did not. I have not done anything but changed the directories and done the listings as suggested.

I am not sure what it is showing.
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