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Berbe

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Message 114572 - Posted: 25 Sep 2024, 10:28:35 UTC

I already asked the question on the ScienceUnited boards without any answer so far.
Since the problem might be related to the inner workings of BOINC, I am replicating it here.

Client version: 8.0.2

I am using BOINC configured with a ScienceUnited account manager:
Account manager info:
   Name: Science United
   URL: https://scienceunited.org/

All the projects come from it:
attached via Account Manager: yes

However, over time, all the projects end up showing this state:
don't request more work: yes


In the end, I am not requesting any more tasks, hence not producing any work anymore. A client restart does not seem to yield any change.
I have no idea what to change nor where for that behaviour to stop.
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Message 114573 - Posted: 25 Sep 2024, 10:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 114572.  

A client restart does not seem to yield any change.
I have no idea what to change nor where for that behaviour to stop.

I have never used Science United. What do you see on the SU site where you choose which projects to run? This feels like an SU issue to me.
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Message 114574 - Posted: 25 Sep 2024, 10:49:55 UTC - in response to Message 114573.  
Last modified: 25 Sep 2024, 10:50:30 UTC

There are various settings of different kinds.

Computer processing settings
Those do not seem not be related to the way the account manager works.

Science areas settings
Projects are categorised in "areas", which you can prefer or exclude; the default settings (I'm using) is "as needed": no impact on processing there I guess.

Projects settings
There also is an ability to exclude projects individually, which be default is off, enabling all projects from ScienceUnited to be selected by the account manager.
I used this mechanism in the past on some projects starting to show the problem I describe in my initial post, trying to mitigate that behaviour.

It worked for a time, forcing the client to request other projects, but it seems this problem is global, as every project end up falling into that "not requesting more work" state.
Hence, this is not the solution, but having spent a lot of time digging in all panels of the ScienceUnited website, I have not so far found see any setting driving this behaviour.
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Message 114576 - Posted: 25 Sep 2024, 13:33:30 UTC

Is there any reason why you don’t ditch Science United and take control over which projects are run and how?
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Message 114577 - Posted: 25 Sep 2024, 17:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 114576.  

Well, I wanted to avoid micromanaging all the projects and let that account manager dispatch the processing over all those projects, allowing them to manage allocation of all users properly… but it seems I am believing in something non-existent.

In the end I have not been contributing any processing power for almost two weeks now…
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Message 114579 - Posted: 26 Sep 2024, 7:46:57 UTC - in response to Message 114577.  

In reply to Berbe's message of 25 Sep 2024:
Well, I wanted to avoid micromanaging all the projects and let that account manager dispatch the processing over all those projects, allowing them to manage allocation of all users properly… but it seems I am believing in something non-existent.

In the end I have not been contributing any processing power for almost two weeks now…


There is no need to micromanage, you select which projects you want and assign a weighting to them (if you want something other that equal work) and then leave it to sort itself out.
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Message 114734 - Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 11:10:19 UTC

How do you "weight" aka prioritise projects over others?
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Message 114735 - Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 11:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 114734.  

In reply to Berbe's message of 26 Oct 2024:
How do you "weight" aka prioritise projects over others?
In Manager, under the projects tab, the resource share tells you the weighting of each project. The default for each project is 100. You can change this on the individual projects' websites under your preferences. For CPDN for example it is under CPDNBOINC preferences.
If you leave them all on the defaults given long enough assuming all your projects have work all the time, the amount of time spent on each should equal out. This can take a very long time if you mix projects with long tasks and long deadlines with those with short tasks and short deadlines. CPDN used to have deadlines of a year for most tasks, a hangover from when tasks could take five or six months to complete which along with work being intermittent was probably the worst offender for messing the system up.
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Message 114737 - Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 17:32:14 UTC - in response to Message 114735.  

Do you happen to know how that translates to the
boinccmd
CLI client configuration
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Message 114738 - Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 20:03:37 UTC - in response to Message 114737.  

Not offhand but, if you haven't changed any of the weightings on the project websites they will all be equally weighted. You need to change your preferences on the projects' respective sites.
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