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Message 112874 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 10:13:55 UTC

Hi all,

Ever since installing version 7.24.1 BOINC fails to adhere to the suspend settings, consistently pegging the CPU at 100% rendering the system unusable until I either kill the Boinc.exe process or exit the boincmgr.exe client app altogether.

Ordinarily, I would say it is worth reinstalling to fix this kind of thing but the problem is presenting itself on two separate, unrelated PCs.

Clicking options > Computing preferences and changing or selecting/unselecting the "suspend when computer is in use" option seems to have some effect, but not all the time like it used to. :-(

both systems are running Windows 11

I have the following projects:

World community grid
Einstein@home
LHC@home
Rosetta@home
climateprediction.net
GPUGrid (only on the system with an Nvidia GPU)

BOINC is not installed as a service on either system.
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Message 112875 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 10:33:22 UTC

One quick check is that under the activity menu option you have "run based on preferences" selected.
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Message 112877 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 11:32:24 UTC

And rather than suspending all computation, I much prefer to restrict the number of cores in use to prevent sluggishness. (Mostly I get that with apps that use the GPU. Running 10 cores out of 16 (8 real+8 virtual) CPDN tasks I don't notice any problems. I normally don't go above using just the 8 real cores at least with CPDN it doesn't seem to improve throughput but testing out some theories I have two tasks running in a vm alongside 8 using WINE to run the Windows client.
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Message 112880 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 15:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 112875.  

Run based on preferences is selected, yes. This particular version just seems to ignore that setting.
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Message 112881 - Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 16:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 112880.  

Which project(s) is this with?
What are your suspend settings? Can you post the contents of your global_prefs.xml and global_prefs_override.xml files?
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Message 112885 - Posted: 11 Oct 2023, 10:11:55 UTC

Offending project(s): Einstein@home & World Community Grid.

Global prefs:

<global_preferences>
    <source_project>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/</source_project>
    <source_scheduler>https://scheduler.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi</source_scheduler>

  <mod_time>1695111397</mod_time>
  <cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>120</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
  <disk_interval>60.0</disk_interval>
  <disk_max_used_gb>10.0</disk_max_used_gb>
  <disk_max_used_pct>50.0</disk_max_used_pct>
  <disk_min_free_gb>0.5</disk_min_free_gb>
  <end_hour>0</end_hour>
  <idle_time_to_run>3.0</idle_time_to_run>
  <max_bytes_sec_down>0.0</max_bytes_sec_down>
  <max_bytes_sec_up>0.0</max_bytes_sec_up>
  <max_cpus>16</max_cpus>
  <max_ncpus_pct>100.0</max_ncpus_pct>
  <net_end_hour>0</net_end_hour>
  <net_start_hour>0</net_start_hour>
  <run_if_user_active/>
  <start_hour>0</start_hour>
  <cpu_usage_limit>60.0</cpu_usage_limit>
  <ram_max_used_busy_pct>50.0</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
  <ram_max_used_idle_pct>75.0</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
  <vm_max_used_pct>50.0</vm_max_used_pct>
  <work_buf_min_days>0.2</work_buf_min_days>
  <work_buf_additional_days>0.3</work_buf_additional_days>
  <suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.0</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
  <daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
  <daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.0</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
  <suspend_cpu_usage>25.0</suspend_cpu_usage>
</global_preferences>


Global prefs override:

<global_preferences>
   <run_on_batteries>0</run_on_batteries>
   <run_if_user_active>0</run_if_user_active>
   <run_gpu_if_user_active>0</run_gpu_if_user_active>
   <idle_time_to_run>5.000000</idle_time_to_run>
   <suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.000000</suspend_if_no_recent_input>
   <suspend_cpu_usage>25.000000</suspend_cpu_usage>
   <start_hour>0.000000</start_hour>
   <end_hour>0.000000</end_hour>
   <net_start_hour>0.000000</net_start_hour>
   <net_end_hour>0.000000</net_end_hour>
   <leave_apps_in_memory>0</leave_apps_in_memory>
   <confirm_before_connecting>0</confirm_before_connecting>
   <hangup_if_dialed>0</hangup_if_dialed>
   <dont_verify_images>0</dont_verify_images>
   <work_buf_min_days>0.200000</work_buf_min_days>
   <work_buf_additional_days>0.300000</work_buf_additional_days>
   <max_ncpus_pct>80.000000</max_ncpus_pct>
   <niu_max_ncpus_pct>100.000000</niu_max_ncpus_pct>
   <niu_cpu_usage_limit>60.000000</niu_cpu_usage_limit>
   <niu_suspend_cpu_usage>25.000000</niu_suspend_cpu_usage>
   <cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>120.000000</cpu_scheduling_period_minutes>
   <disk_interval>60.000000</disk_interval>
   <disk_max_used_gb>0.000000</disk_max_used_gb>
   <disk_max_used_pct>50.000000</disk_max_used_pct>
   <disk_min_free_gb>0.500000</disk_min_free_gb>
   <vm_max_used_pct>50.000000</vm_max_used_pct>
   <ram_max_used_busy_pct>50.000000</ram_max_used_busy_pct>
   <ram_max_used_idle_pct>75.000000</ram_max_used_idle_pct>
   <max_bytes_sec_up>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_up>
   <max_bytes_sec_down>0.000000</max_bytes_sec_down>
   <cpu_usage_limit>75.000000</cpu_usage_limit>
   <daily_xfer_limit_mb>0.000000</daily_xfer_limit_mb>
   <daily_xfer_period_days>0</daily_xfer_period_days>
</global_preferences>
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Message 112900 - Posted: 12 Oct 2023, 22:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 112885.  

Can you test something?
Set <suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.000000</suspend_if_no_recent_input> to 1 minute? That's the equivalent for option "'In use' means mouse or keyboard input in last N minutes", in the settings.
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Message 112905 - Posted: 13 Oct 2023, 9:52:50 UTC - in response to Message 112900.  

Can you test something?
Set <suspend_if_no_recent_input>0.000000</suspend_if_no_recent_input> to 1 minute? That's the equivalent for option "'In use' means mouse or keyboard input in last N minutes", in the settings.


I'll give this a go. One thing I have found when the manager misbehaves is that if I unset and then reset the "Run based on Preferences" setting in the manager, it starts to work.
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Message 112908 - Posted: 13 Oct 2023, 10:41:18 UTC - in response to Message 112905.  
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I ask for the test as there's a change in 7.24.1, that says "the default value for the "suspend_if_no_recent_input" pref is 0, not 60".
Btw, if it works as is when you reset the value to off and back on, when then does it stop working again?
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