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Message 119419 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 3:14:42 UTC - in response to Message 119417.  

Wishing them the best of luck trying to enforce a VPN BAN!
UK Tech Minister Hints at Potential VPN Ban to Enforce Social Media Restrictions
The censorious left-wing UK government said that it will announce plans for Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) next month amid growing questions about how it intends to ensure that children do not subvert the upcoming social media prohibition.

... according to data collected by the IT Asset Management Group, Google searches for “VPN” rose by 165 per cent after Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer formally announced plans to ban social media for those under 16 on Monday, City AM reported.

Technology Minister Liz Kendall told the BBC on Tuesday morning that the government will “make further statements in July about VPNs and further restrictions.

Meanwhile, Children’s Minister Josh MacAlister said the government may also consider a “age-gate” for VPN use, which he said would be “really welcome”.
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Message 119420 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 3:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 119419.  

How are they going to ban my VPN Router?
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Message 119421 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 5:22:29 UTC - in response to Message 119420.  

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Message 119422 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 8:09:21 UTC

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So we have 1. removal of the automatic right to trial by jury, and right to appeal 2. Removal of free speech. 3. Removal and silencing of political opponents (eg the Restore Britain March). 4. Manipulation of the press (for instance, the directives given to the press following the Northern Ireland riots). 5. Control of the population by removal of the right to anonymity in social media and elsewhere. 6.
Control of the population by digital ID and face recognition. 7. Handing out different punishments depending on the culture of the defendant.

I put this into Google Al and this was the result "These combined actions mean a government is shifting from a democracy into an authoritarian regime, dictatorship, or totalitarian state. When a state systematically dismantles legal, political, and social checks and balances, it establishes absolute control over its citizens."
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Message 119423 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 9:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 119422.  

In reply to Jord's message of 17 Jun 2026:
Originally posted by someone other than me:

So we have 1. removal of the automatic right to trial by jury, and right to appeal 2. Removal of free speech. 3. Removal and silencing of political opponents (eg the Restore Britain March). 4. Manipulation of the press (for instance, the directives given to the press following the Northern Ireland riots). 5. Control of the population by removal of the right to anonymity in social media and elsewhere. 6.
Control of the population by digital ID and face recognition. 7. Handing out different punishments depending on the culture of the defendant.

I put this into Google Al and this was the result "These combined actions mean a government is shifting from a democracy into an authoritarian regime, dictatorship, or totalitarian state. When a state systematically dismantles legal, political, and social checks and balances, it establishes absolute control over its citizens."


It is interesting to look at some of those points in more detail.
1. The ending of the automatic right to a jury trial. That has never been there for all offences. What has happened is the seriousness threshold for it has increased. Given the massive delay in cases coming to court meaning some witnesses might die or not remember things nearly as well three years down the line, changing that threshold to reduce waiting times, to me at least is a better option. I don't like that it is needed and long term more cash needs to be put into the system to speed up justice.
2. Free speech has not been removed. There have always been consequences for those inciting violence.
7. Sadly, different punishments have long been handed out depending on the culture of the defendant. The harsher sentences almost inevitably have gone to ethnic minorities who are those most likely to be economically disadvantaged.

Would you prefer the American system where free speech is curtailed by those with millions of pounds to pursue frivolous lawsuits against anyone who says something they don't like?
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Message 119424 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 14:00:13 UTC

More not so nice news from the UK, stuff you won't find in our news, because it's the wrong kind of news.

Here are eight essential quotes from @RupertLowe10's Rape Gang Inquiry.

1) This was a nationwide, not merely local, phenomenon.

"...that this was never a series of isolated local failures. It was a coordinated, nationwide pattern of organised child sexual exploitation that repeated in town after town, city after city, from the far north to the south coast."

2) The scale was enormous, more than anyone dared to think.

"The scale of the crimes committed is staggering. It has been previously established that, at the very least, 250,000 young white girls have been subjected to repeated rape, gang rape, trafficking, torture, pregnancy, forced Islamic conversion, and lifelong trauma. The true number is probably higher."

3) As has been reported, the vast majority of perpetrators were Pakistani Muslims.

" In court records and official inquiries, around 87% of those convicted in these group-based child sexual exploitation (‘CSE’) cases bore distinctively Muslim names... Dr. Taj Hargey, an imam with the Oxford Islamic Congregation, believes the true proportion of gang members who are Muslims to be around 95%."

4) Vulnerable girls were targeted using a consistent method.

"Organised networks of perpetrators built coordinated operations that transported victims between locations, supplied them with drugs and alcohol, recorded abuse for distribution and blackmail, and passed girls between multiple adult men."

5) The police, and other institutions, knew what was happening and ignored it.

"Police forces ignored repeated reports, criminalised victims instead of perpetrators, destroyed evidence, and allowed known rapists to walk free on bail. Social care services undermined protective parents, placed children in trafficking hubs inside children’s homes, closed cases despite clear indicators of exploitation, and retaliated against whistleblowers. The NHS recorded genital injuries, multiple sexually transmitted infections in children as young as 13, pregnancies caused by rape, and suicide attempts, yet discharged victims back to their abusers without safeguarding referrals or trauma care. Schools observed older men collecting girls at the gates, heard disclosures of rape on school premises, and responded by excluding victims rather than protecting them."

6) Those in these institutions did so because they were afraid of being called 'racist'.

"Political correctness, fear of accusations of racism, and fear of losing electoral support from certain demographics have taken precedence over the protection of British children."

7) Parts of the foster and orphan care system became exploitation hotspots.

"Children’s homes became trafficking hubs where staff failed to stop older men collecting girls at night. Local authorities often returned children to unsafe homes and placements despite repeated disclosures of grooming... Social care across England systematically enabled organised grooming and the rape of children. Children’s services, local authorities, foster carers, children’s homes, and independent units repeatedly returned vulnerable children to known risk."

8) Multiple offenders explicitly linked their treatment of these girls with their own religious and cultural beliefs, and the girls' white ethnicity.

"They were taken to houses, flats, restaurants, and hotels where they were raped repeatedly by groups of men, tortured, filmed for blackmail, and told they were “white trash” or “kuffar” who merited punishment."

There must be comeuppance for this, and it must involve the death penalty.
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Message 119425 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 15:00:18 UTC
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For you who don't want to read it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_-JylAVOw

Edit: I did a search for "Rape Gang Inquiry Report" on the BBC pages: no results.
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Message 119426 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 18:55:13 UTC

the Casey Report of 2025 stated that disproportionate numbers of men from
“Asian ethnic backgrounds” were among the suspects for group-based child
sexual exploitation (‘CSE’). Baroness Casey quoted local reports showing that a
significant proportion of those convicted were of Pakistani and/or Muslim
heritage. The crimes stretch back generations.


They looked at these figures on More or Less. (A programme produced for but not by the BBC.

Yes. Recent immigrants are over represented in these and in violent crime. However when the figures are adjusted for age with the overwhelming majority of male immigrants being in the age range that commit most of these crimes, they are under represented. It is also worth noting that just about every rape or other violent crime by an immigrant is reported whereas only a tiny fraction of those by people who have lived here all their lives are reported.
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Message 119427 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 19:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 119426.  
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Dave, you have over 250,000 of your British girls who have been gang raped, beaten, tortured, molested, some even killed, with cases going back to 1954. There's no way to downplay this. You should be livid. Against everyone who allowed this to happen and continue for so long, even today.
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Message 119428 - Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 20:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 119427.  
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In reply to Jord's message of 17 Jun 2026:
Dave, you have over 250,000 of your British girls who have been gang raped, beaten, tortured, molested, some even killed, with cases going back to 1954. There's no way to downplay this. You should be livid. Against everyone who allowed this to happen and continue for so long, even today.


I am. What you are ignoring however is that even more are having this done to them by white British men. I am just as livid about that.

Edit {url=https://www.ukfactcheck.com/fact-checker/38/pakistani-rape-gangs-exploited-children-in-85-authorities-across-uk-british-mp-s-probe-finds]fact check[/url] Also worth noting several high impact claims in the report are unverified.
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