I get past all the dialogs, and when I finally press "install", I get this error message:

Internal Error 2721. CAValidateSetupType

...and an "OK" button. The InstallShield wizard finishes, and nothing is installed. Fortunately, it hasn't uninstalled anything, either.

I tried both Shared install and Single User.

Then I tried unnstalling BOINC first. No difference. This has happened so far on three different machines, downloaded three different times. Has anyone tested this installer?

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Hi Gene,

BOINC 5.8.0 has a problem. Everyone gets that error. Best to dump it and to return to your previous version for now. Until you see recommended behind it, it's still in beta testing.

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Having said that, this hot off the press:

Hey folks, I've updated 5.8.0 with a fixed installer.

Go ahead and give it a try.

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So go download it again. :)

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Hi Gene,

BOINC 5.8.0 has a problem. Everyone gets that error. Best to dump it and to return to your previous version for now. Until you see recommended behind it, it's still in beta testing.

No problem, it was recommended to me by someone on the Rosetta boards, and I've never had a problem before with test versions (installers, anyway), so I figured I ought to report it. I'm currently running a mix of 5.6.5 and 5.7.5, both of which install properly.

I am having a minor problem with 5.7.5 and screensavers (in general), and was looking to see if this version might fix it and also help somewhat with Rosetta's screensaver problems.

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I am having a minor problem with 5.7.5 and screensavers (in general), and was looking to see if this version might fix it and also help somewhat with Rosetta's screensaver problems.

If you want to explain further, we can look into it as well. What's the problem you have? For which OS and on what kind of videocard?

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I'm quickly reading through the thread on Rosetta. Question: What do you mean by 10 minute time slices? Do you have your switch between projects set to 10 minutes?

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Hi Jord.

First, thanks to you and Rom. This new installer works.

The issue I was talking about on Rosetta: When you have a multi-processor machine, the Boinc manager will run the graphics for the various projects you are attached to for 10 minutes each, switching from one to the next. This is not anything you can set, it is built into the Boinc Manager.

With version 5.7.5, and I think 5.7.2 as well, the graphics would disappear before the 10 minutes was up, to be replaced by the default Boinc graphics, with the message "screensaver shutting down". at the end of the 10 minute period, the next project's graphics would appear momentarily (for maybe 30 seconds) and then get shut down the same way. This behavior would continue for the next project, etc.

I didn't see this happening with 5.6.5. Fluffy Chicken was working on compiling 5.7.6 and mentioned that there was a fix relating to graphics and wanted me to try it. At that point he started building versions for me to download (no installer) and drop into my Boinc folder. (I made a backup first!) None of these would run, and he was very frustrated since he apparently had no problem running them. I decided to wait for the official version to come out, so here I am.

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I am having a minor problem with 5.7.5 and screensavers (in general), and was looking to see if this version might fix it and also help somewhat with Rosetta's screensaver problems.

If you want to explain further, we can look into it as well. What's the problem you have? For which OS and on what kind of videocard?

I'm running WinXP, and I've tried both NVidia FX5950 and ATI x850xt cards, both with the latest release drivers. It doesn't seem to matter which video cards I use. Here's the machine: hostid=2016

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Sorry about that there, I fell asleep behind the puter, so I went to bed. ;-)

You've had 5.8 installed for a while now, does it fix these problems in any way?
It has some fixes for multi CPUs incorporated. But if you find it still doesn't work, tell and I'll report it to the devs.

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Jord,

I've just installed 5.8.0 on my other two multiprocessor machines, we'll see how that goes. Both of these have NVidia cards. At home, on the first system I tried it on, I haven't had any crashes yet, and I didn't see that screensaver problem yet. I *did* have a funny thing happen with the Seti Beta screensaver (using ATI card below) this morning:

The system had only CPDN and Seti Beta work. There was one CPDN and three Seti Beta WU's running, so the screensaver switched between CPDN and the first Seti. (I do wish it would cycle through ALL WU's, even those of the same type.) One of the times it came back to Seti, the ATI card got its screen settings messed up, and I saw what looked like a double image of the Seti graphic, and it froze. The cursor was still moving, and I could not get control with ctrl-alt-del. I had some MP3 conversions running, and I could tell by the disk activity LED that it was still going, so I left it alone. 10 minutes later, the CPDN screensaver came back as if nothing had happened, and the system responded to moving the mouse. ATI driver problem, maybe? I've seen it lose screen settings before. I'm using driver version 6-11_xp-2k_dd_37616, listed on their website as the current driver for this card (x850xt). I could go back to the NVidia fx5950 (driver 93.71), and see how that behaves. If I have time tonight, maybe I'll swap the cards again, since I haven't had that problem with NVidia.

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I had some MP3 conversions running, and I could tell by the disk activity LED that it was still going, so I left it alone.

I know from experience that mp3 conversions take up quite some CPU and RAM. So it may have been that. If and when I do any conversions (video or audio) I usually stop BOINC so my system has all its resources free for doing that.

In my case it's usually then reading from CD, using lots of RAM (pre-caching), CPU (almost full) and of course disk writes. When the source file is already on the hard drive, you have disk reads and disk writes to content with.

When BOINC is using these resources at the same time... got my drift?

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I had some MP3 conversions running, and I could tell by the disk activity LED that it was still going, so I left it alone.

I know from experience that mp3 conversions take up quite some CPU and RAM. So it may have been that. If and when I do any conversions (video or audio) I usually stop BOINC so my system has all its resources free for doing that.

In my case it's usually then reading from CD, using lots of RAM (pre-caching), CPU (almost full) and of course disk writes. When the source file is already on the hard drive, you have disk reads and disk writes to content with.

When BOINC is using these resources at the same time... got my drift?

I've been running BOINC since it was in beta and Seti@Home was the only project using it. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect from it.
If I'm using BOINC on a work machine where *any* performance hit would be objectionable, then I not only suspend BOINC, but exit the CC and disable screensavers while performing the resource-intensive stuff. And believe me, even though BOINC runs at idle priority, it certainly has an effect, either through task switching, disk reads and writes, or just hogging memory. When I'm burning CD's or DVD's I usually suspend BOINC, but don't need to remove it from memory. If I'm just ripping CD's or converting to MP3's (or other formats), these activities can tolerate less than full performance from the PC. BOINC should gracefully surrender its CPU usage to the higher-priority processes, and mostly, it does.

I expect BOINC and applications running under BOINC to share the CPU resources nicely and behave properly. The problem we have here is that BOINC, like most other programs, has bugs, and these bugs cause bad behavior at times. That is why we are here, to report and discuss them and try to help the developers find solutions to the problems. That said, I'm happy to add that BOINC has been generally well-behaved for quite some time now (at least in my experience), and it's mostly the individual applications that cause problems.

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