I suggest that the last three posters have singled themselves out as being out of step with the rest of the country, and indeed the rest of the world. Two of them I would expect, the third is a surprise.

However levels of immigration are not the basic problem, religious fanaticism and radicalisation is.

Putting troops on the street is a clear indication of law & order breaking down to the extent that Police & Government has lost control. Before you argue over that, answer this: Just what was Northern Ireland?

One cannot put trained professionals whose main purpose [is] to defend the country in a military manner as police officers. To do so, tells the terrorists as well as the rest of the world that control has been lost.

You did not understand what I said.

This will practically mean armed soldiers at key locations and events, so that armed police can be freed to focus on policing rather than guarding.

Again you are out of step with the way that everyone else is thinking.

To do so, tells the terrorists as well as the rest of the world that control has been lost.

No it does not, it sends a powerful message to terrorists that if they try again to perform an outrage, the likelihood of them being found and stopped is that much more higher than before. Control has not been lost, in fact there is more control now than last week because of te threat level being raised. If you now feel unsafe in this country, you have the option to return home to Ireland.

Imagine more attacks spread out over the next 5-10 years each time the security gets tighter and tighter, till we are afraid to go anywhere in our cities and we have armed soldiers on every street corner, stopping people at random. That doesn't seem like the sort of world I want ot live in.

Imagine more attacks spread out over the next 5-10 years each time the security gets tighter and tighter, till we are afraid to go anywhere in our cities and we have armed soldiers on every street corner, stopping people at random. That doesn't seem like the sort of world I want ot live in.

The military playing the part of the ministry to prevent vice and promote virtue. Sharia law and they have won.

The military playing the part of the ministry to prevent vice and promote virtue. Sharia law and they have won.

The military playing the part of the ministry to prevent vice and promote virtue. Sharia law and they have won.

Maybe in your country , never here in the Uk !!!!!!!!!!!

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Manchester attack: Security services find more bomb-making materials in hunt for UK terror network.

Got to wonder what use the intelligence offices are when with all of the privacy we have turned in, they still can't find things like this before they go off.

Taking a helicopter view of the current situation I need to remind myself that the sort of people that are attracted to bulletin boards in the first place are far more likely to be left wing than anything else. I class myself as centre right, so it is not surprising that my views clash with the majority. As Mark says "Am I bovvered?".

I can't say I'd noticed that in, say, the Politics thread at SETI that spawned this spin-off.

Are you being serious Richard? The majority of the Seti mod team are BHL's and their leader leans so far left, he hangs out of the side window when driving his car!!!

So much for the "Special Relationship".

The New York Times has published leaked photos and information from the scene of the Manchester suicide bombing. Kurt Volker, the former US permanent representative to NATO, said the leak was "very unfortunate". He told Radio 4: "If you are an allied intelligence service, you are going to think twice about sharing something if you think it could be published in the New York Times."

Are you being serious Richard? The majority of the Seti mod team are BHL's and their leader leans so far left, he hangs out of the side window when driving his car!!!

I've just come back from the corner shop after getting the daily paper, and a couple of grocery items. There were 5 people in the shop including me. Some chap in the queue was spouting on about "We'll never beat 'em wot's the point of trying?". He was rounded on by two others and told in no uncertain terms what they thought of his comments. He slunk out red faced after paying for his goods.

Who's going to be fired over this?